Thursday, April 06, 2006

Students slam OBC reservation proposal

Students slam OBC reservation proposal - NDTV.com - News on Students slam OBC reservation proposal: "On Wednesday, Union HRD Minister Arjun Singh had proposed a 27 per cent quota for other backward classes (OBCs) in central institutions like the Delhi University, the IITs and the IIMs. This will be in addition to the 22.5 per cent reservation for scheduled castes and scheduled tribes, leading to a total reservation of 49.5 per cent.

The proposal is based on the same provisions that had caused massive outrage and sparked student protests in 1990-91. The new quotas will be formally announced after the assembly elections, and state governments will be allowed to define the quotas they want to implement in their institutions."

57 comments:

Anonymous said...

If at all the polilticians are so concerned about the welfare and upliftment of the OBCs then they can create coahing institutes, give freeships and scholarships and free books to these students to bring them at par with other candidates. That way they can compete with them in the enterance exams effectively. This Singh old haggard is playing politics and is an out and out bastard !

Anonymous said...

The recent effort to extend the reservation should be fought tooth and nail, otherwise our political masters shall make the this country as their `RAKHAIL`. The vote bank policies have surpassed every thing.
General category people should not expect an concession from the leaders.All political parties are alike. A forum hould be formed which should spread the anti reservation awareness.The reservation, if at all has to be there , it should be at one place. I wish to explain it as follows; To day the SC/ST/OBC are getting fovours in admission, then relaxation in %age of marks, then in getting a job, and finally in promotions. This favour should be at one initial point. Just give them free education from A to Z but the rest should be level playing field. Why these category boys should not work hard in studies to get better ranks and show there performance in jobs to get promotions . Once they are 100% subsidised in education they should be ready to comopete. The present policies are injustice to the hard working boys. And finally if no political party is coming to the rescue of general category boys,then it should be made a point that these category boys get a discriminated treatment and are bycotted in the educational institutions and the other establishments. The leaders are hell bent to devide the society, so let it be as they wish. Let the devide be open and clear and widespread. Only then these MASSIHAS of SC/ST/OBC`s shall learn a leson. Wake up - it not the question of our future but the question of next generation as well.

Anonymous said...

This is all a political gimmick plotted against us to make our life miserable on condition of paving a way for them who are neither really needy nor socially backward.They should define what is OBC are they mentally backward too?If they are backward how can a mentally backward is fit to a society.A person holding acres of land is a backward in many states and on the contrary if i have only a meagre piece of land i am devoid of any opportunity in job or education.They want us to put in a condition where the only way to livelihood for us is to open a Grocery store or compell our next generation to beg for alms.

Anonymous said...

These polititians are for no good. This further reservation will divide the country. If they ignore the merit what they will produce second rated technocrats and managers. If still they are bent upon this reservation they should have another partition of the country where in one part they can have 100% reservation and rule them. They should not force their will on the people.

Anonymous said...

mr arjun singh is just playing a political gimmick to hold off his pending retirement...aftre having been asked by the pm to take the post of a governer rather than a ministre ..it his last gimmick to stay on since he knows he will be subjected to comtroversy. since the supreme court has 0% as the limit for reservation , they have stopped at 49.5.. we aint fools mr arjun singh. sooner or later the youth of the country is going to get back at you. such irrational and irresponsible actions will just re affirm our non belief in politics.. and ministers. i have no better way to ask you anything else...just " have u got ur mental state cheked? " people readng this re requested to join and sign this petition and link ... www.petitiononline.com/

Anonymous said...

This whole OBC issue is nothing but just a cheap political stunt to attract the so called vote bank and go on ruining the career of meriterious student who work hard for a better future.
If the govt or should I say our HRD minister is so concern of the upliftment of the OBC and backward then instead of reservation provide scholarship to the backward.

Anonymous said...

Where are we all headed? Is this democracy or democritisim! I fail to understand the illogical reservation posted on the damn indian parliament. Seems like our politicians don't really have much work. All they do is try to pick wounded scabs and think they're doing a great job. Polis' wake up! You're destroying our country. You are almost in the grave why put the today's youth towards the grave.

Anonymous said...

When government itself is thinking of bringing out self destructive policies --- Who can ensure india's development ? Why can't progress be WIN WIN deal for everyone in the country ? Why it has to be WIN for some and LOSE for others ? What kind of development/progress does the government want to ensure with this kind of policy ? Why can't we abolish all the DISCRIMINATIVE policies --- which divides people on caste/relegion/region/etc/etc...? Govt. itself is practicing all these divisive policies for their VOTE BANK politics ?? Divide and Rule ---- what is differnet between earlier rulers and current leaders ?? WAKE UP ----TIME is running out ----we are done now .....Forget about development ---government wants us to take us back in history and fight with each other ????? They are the biggest enemy.

Anonymous said...

Just imagine, how bad are those fukers. Can you imagine what will happen to those seats of lower-cast student, who'll leave IIT-IIM or other central-institutions for no-money or any other reason? many general students might make their life but they could'nt. Govt. should make reservations on the basis of "household-income" not for cast/religion.

Anonymous said...

The bastard V.P.Singh got away with it and was not beaten with shoes therefore this doddering discredited Arjun Singh wants to overcome his senility by creating a place in history.

Anonymous said...

we the general populace must see the designs of the polititians whose children even with reservations are unable to get into good institutions so they got togather even the NDA with BJP and found way to get their children into these esteemed places. This old bastard Arjun singh who made a power surplus state like MP a power buyer state, is trying to destroy the institutes of repute by suggsting this idiotic thing.

Anonymous said...

All the upper classes should unite and protest against these stupid politicians . in 1990 s in mandals comission children burnt themselves . but it was of no use .there lives went in vain.WE give the votes not to trample over our lives . this upliftment shd be based on financial status of the families rather than the obc who r already holdin high posts. actually this is not their upliftment but a nasty political gimmick to fill there vote banks . we shd all get united n fight against this and not let this happen . We should not allow them to write our destiny .

YOUTH OF INDIA

WAKE UP AND FIGHT .WE ARE ALL WITH U .

Anonymous said...

hey thanx once more.....
for increasing corruption in corrupted system of ours.Already our education institutions had become temple of money than temple of knowledge. And mind blowing addition to it is reservations....
if our goverment really want to uplift the backward classes why don't they spent enough money to go to remote and unaccessible places villages of this mighty country and setup some good school and colleges rather let undeserved candidates and mostly the relatives of our great MP's and MLA's to get admitted to these prestigious institutes.Thats why India see most number of students trying in Universities outside India...because they see more opportunities and there worth there. But then India deserves this only from us. The Gen-X disapproves this discrimination.

Anonymous said...

It is a POLITICAL STUNT in order to gather votes from these backward classes. They did nothing to develop the country in there rule atleast to gather some vote they are ready to put the careers of General Class students in danger. It is a humble request to everyone please take some time out to go out and vote for right people please make your presence fell in these elections.Tell them what real democracy means and dont let these corrupt politicians play with our lives...

Anonymous said...

.These reservations, even after nearly 60 years of Independence is a shame for our country and is nothing except vote bank politics.
I think all the major political parties now have their hands full by appeasing SC/ST/ OBC/etc.
However, they are forgetting one important segment that is students in the age group 18-25 years. Can this section forgive the likes of Arjun Singhs and V.P. Singhs?
Are these politicians not prompting growth of disgruntled students and may be Naxalites.
Can they expect votes from this section constituting at least 25% votes.
Which political party would like to tap this vote bank? Anyone interested?

Anonymous said...

These reservations, even after nearly 60 years of Independence is a shame for our country and is nothing except vote bank politics.
I think all the major political parties now have their hands full by appeasing SC/ST/ OBC/etc.
However, they are forgetting one important segment that is students in the age group 18-25 years. Can this section forgive the likes of Arjun Singhs and V.P. Singhs?
Are these politicians not prompting growth of disgruntled students and may be Naxalites.
Can they expect votes from this section constituting at least 25% votes.
Which political party would like to tap this vote bank? Anyone interested?

Anonymous said...

hi all
i think first vp singh was a bastard, now it is arjun singh...what sort of politics is this ...and they are aying thsat they are not flouting election comission rules.
is just that arjun singh knows that he dos not have lot of time left and has done little to make his name added to history books....so last ditch attempt to get recognition before he is called to his rightful house...HELL by GOD.

Anonymous said...

This decision is no good neither for general category nor for the reserved category students who already find it difficult to cope with the standards at these premiere institutes like IIT IIM'S.and this arjun singh who has taken this absolutely thoughtless decision is going to ruin the lives of students and hamper the development of our country. the standard of these institutes is going to go down and the deserving students r going to suffer. we people r going to hate this stupid old man who better change this decision of his or he is not even going to find place in hell.

Anonymous said...

It has been seen that the real SC/ST and OBCs still live in the villages and are not presently getting the type of educational services that they deserve. And what they deserve are taken away by such OBCs in the cities who have already reaped their benefits and are economically very very sound. After all what the govts under Mandal Commission and this bloody Arjun Singh, have heaped upon them, they have still not proved themselves on minimum performance levels. So the whole investments have come to nought. Let us oppose this tooth and nail Anuway today it has come in the papers that this topic was the most hotly written about topic in cyberia. Regards to all bloggers on this site

Anonymous said...

THE GOVERMENT IS PLAYING DIRTY POLITICS FOR VOTES NA THEN ,DEAR STUDENTS THERE IS AN EASIEST AND EFFECTIVE MANTRA TO BEAT THIS GOVERMENT AND IT'S WRONG POLICIES AND THAT MANTRA IS:
"USE YOUR VOTE POWER"
VERY FEW YOUTHS USUALLY GO FOR VOTING AND THAT IS THE MOST FOOLISH THING WE DO.WE ARE THE MAN AND WOMAN OF TOMMOROW WHO WILL MAKE THIS COUNTRY AND WILL MAKE AND BREAK THE GOVERMENT. SO ALL YOU YOUTHS OUT THERE JUST UNITE AND USE YOUR VOTE POWER TO CHOOSE THE GOVERMENT THAT YOU WANT TO RULE US AND OUR COUNTRY.

Anonymous said...

These `congressians` has no spine. They just slaves of Sonia who has attachment with India and Indians whatsorever. These EUNUCHES congressians only accepting her as their leader because they know she is the only compromising leader. And she, in response, is compromising a lot, just to secure her future in the country.Every person knows the extention of reservation is nothing but a gimmic. But the biggest trajedy is that there is no power center who can speak against this. And this is because of the simple reason that these politicians do`nt care about any thing but about the wellbeing of their party and family. I can assure you fellows that our dirty and discreet politicians will never let this reservatioun `funda` die. Rather thgey shall extend it to every sphere of the life. I am afraid what will happen if one day say that 49.5% of general category boys /girl shall marry with SC/ST/OBC girls/boys.Any thing can be expected from these politicians. they are so cunning, they sacrifice their country, thier people , their moral just to consolidate their position. Now , we , the general category people shall have to protect our interests without the help of these insects.Rise and revolt. Not on in streets but in campuss. These politicians want to devide the society for their benefit, so help them in deviding it. Don`t help these overpriviledged people. Just bycott them.Tell them that they are welcome within you if they work equally hard and secure good marks. Let them not get jobs on the bases of there cast. Don`t let them rule you in the organisation, if they are not capable. Revolt against the sick Arjun , revolt against the sick system. Ask these Thakurs to give their daughters to these so called underpreviled boys and set an example.No one can save us and our generations from total collapse. Unite and stand against these dirty politicians.

Anonymous said...

politicians have been saying that the lower classes need to be brought at par with the other predominant castes .. but reservation is not going to be of help where a merit based entrance to a college like the IIM's or the IIT is concerned.What we need to bring them at par is not a political gimmick wherein you just chop off the seats for the general public , making them literally flee from thier own country & seek higher education out side their own country and consequently work out side too!!
Then blame them for "Brain-Drain". What other choice do you really hthink are they being given.
What the Govt. needs to do is provide the SC, St's & the OBC's with a good primary education by offering it to them as free of cost , make them competetive enough so that they can come up by their own merit.Other wise it would only lead to dilution of the quality that these institute's pride themselves on ! If these kind of reservations take place the general public is bound to be outraged which will only lead to more communal violence, Why should one talented & Deserving candidate have to lose out on a seat because of reservation for ceratin other categories, even thogh he was better than the other candidate!!!
- Malvika.

Anonymous said...

what is this whole hue n cry over the whole issue i fail to understand. why dnt these politicians understand that this bill is neither going to help the OBCs nor is it of any help to us.
putting people with no capabilities with the topmost brains of india is totally bizzre!!!
if this resrvation bullshit goes on we will soon india bien ruled by people wid no brains bt with their OBC certificate!
i thought we were heading for development bt even the fools would think of a better alternative than this one!
this is nothing but just a political gimmick to rake in some extra votes!!!
this is totally unacceptable and this bill would have to be aborted,after all ou future is at stake!!!
prachi vasudeva

Anonymous said...

it is really such a huge shame for our society that even after 300 yrs of slavery and 60 yrs of independence we have not learnt any lessons.still our politicians use the same divide and rule policy to get their votebanks not lost.still some sections r being discriminated from others on the basis of caste.reservations on caste basis is a suicidal attempt for any society going on the path of development.
our politicians must realize that weks can't b strengthened by weakening the strongs.How can talent be overtaken by castes whatever may be the reason.it ia completely blurrre dvison of development.
any reservations should be immediately stopped.So that interests of any class of citizens are not compromised just for the sake of some votes.

Anonymous said...

Jai Hind,
It is a wake up call..?
Remember Saheed Bhagat Singh....!
Otherwise politician will distroy my INDIA.

There are 2 solutions:
1) Distroy these politicians before they destroy my INDIA.
2) My Army takes the rule,they are the peoples who are at border facing enemy.politician live in comfort at tax-money we pay.

Remember all our FREEDOM FIGHTERS ...

Remember Subash Chander Boss...?
He fought for INDIA from outside country...if we have to go to australia or us or uk for study or job ,Do NOT forget our INDIA ,again we have to fight for INDIA.

Anonymous said...

The govt. is taking the students patience for granted...Arjun Singh probably dosent have any idea how tough the enterance exams are...the general category students will be competing for less than 50% seats as the people from the reserved category are also eligible to get admission through the general category quota incase they get a good enough rank.

They talk of India becoming a developed country while they mindlessly murder talent and intellect in for their electoral gains.
In my view what should be done is that the obc,s and SC/ST,s should be given the means to study through scholarships and student loans instead of giving them reserved seats.This reservation shit is being taken too far..schools..colleges..premier institutes...jobs...even promotions.Incase this reservation policy is implemented it is for sure that the top talent will leave for countries where they are better appreciated and not discriminated against.

Another option may be economic criteria based reservations... I personally know of a rich SC/ST who got a lower rank than me...was much more well off than me but got a seat in medical college and I didnt. How do the deaf and demented politicians ruling explain that?

Anonymous said...

Don,t blame Arjun Singh alone.
Sonia Gandhi along with all Congress Party & UPA leaders are responsible for this disgusting act.
Sonia ki ijajat ke bina to yahan ek patta bhi nahin hill sakta hai...
And don,t forget Sonia,s best advisor - Laloo Yadav...He managed to destroy and rule Bihar for 15 years only based on such caste divide formula... And now he is in Centre to play the same dirty politics...
We are helpless...
Yah to Sonia ko election mein jitwane se pahele sonchna chahiye tha... Congress-UPA ko vote kyoon diya???

Anonymous said...

Hey consider this :-
1. Living standards of ST folks from North East esp the in capitals of(Meghalaya,Mizoram,Skikkm,Arunachal Pradesh) is far higher than the poor improvished villages of so called "creamy" layer.
2. The ward of an OBC/ST/SC, IAS father still applies for quota whenever required
3.The more the reservation, the more the divide.The more the divide the more we encourage frustration.This will eventually lead to terrorism or civil war
4.If the country cannot protest like Paris did then we are bound to get weaker day by day....
5. All these political bastards can go and F*** themselves, WE DO NOT NEED YOU. LET US LIVE Please!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Rightly written here that the politicians want to devide the society on the basis of cast. People had started forgetting the upper / lower cast differences, but no , these political leader can do any thing for their vote bank. SO WAKE UP PEOPLE,IF THEY DON`T WANT TO FORGET YOU THE CAST, REMEMBER IT. KEEP SIZABLE DISTANCE FROM THESE PAMPERED FOLK, WAKE UP, REMEMBER WHAT FRENCH YOUTH DID. JUST DO NOT LET THESE BASTERED POLITICAL OLDIES FORGET THAT YOU HAVE SOME EXISTENCE AND THEY CAN`T JUST RUINE YOUR CARRIERS FOR THEIR VOTES.ASK THIS FILTHY ARJUN SINGH, IF HE ADMITS 29% OBC STUDENTS THAT MEANS HE WANT TO KEEP OTHER 29% -DOES NOT MATTER HOW BRILLIANT THEY ARE-AWAY FROM THE COLLEGES. IAM FRUSTATED. AND IF YOU ,MY FELLWO YOUNG MEN ARE, NOT AS FRUSTATED AS I AM , THEN YOU STAND NO CHANCE, WHATSOEVER.THEN YOU DESERVE TO BE RUINED.

Anonymous said...

I am surprised to see so few comments in this column that I have started thinking that the Indian general category youth has eccepted their fate as it is. Another victory of our `great ` leaders.

Anonymous said...

why this old bastard arjun singh is spoiling our lives . he should be thrown out of the country . his face should be blackened , he should be put on a donkey and his processions should be taken out throughout the country.rotten eggs should be thrown on him so that he gets bird flu and his obc doctors should treat him so that we get rid of this contaminated bastard.
and what is the stupid surd doing. only wagging his tail behind that idiot sonia gandhi .all these corrupt politicians should be thrown out of the country .

vivek_sanyasi said...

The recent effort of extending the reservation quata must be opposed.
I think why should general catagory students should suffer?If government really wants to help the OBCs than it should give enough attention towards the primary & secondary education.By giving them basic and proper education,they should made them enough powerful to compete with general catagory people.
yes,some what reservation is needed for the economically backward people not for socially backwards.Yes,goverment can help them by taking low fees after they have been enter in institute by giving enterance exams.
The 49.5% reservation is too high.The quality of students in IIM & IIT defenately decrease.The people who are more knowledgeble cannot get job and the people who is not enough capable to handle ,that will get job.and totally efficency will decrease.
Our honourable president said that total number of seats should be incresed.But it dosen't matter. Number of seats increase how many times,but according to 49.5% reserved seats will also increase.
One said that this reservation should also introdused in medical field .But my dear friend i want to say that the doctor coming with somewhat low knowlege (compared with the nonreserved people) will be dangerous to whole society.
At last i would say that the whole system of giving reservation releated to education must be put up(at least for IIMs & IITs).

Anonymous said...

If one goes through Gandhiji’s autobiography, one realizes that not a single Indian politician has literally worked among the masses for their upliftment the way he did. To penalize meritorious students for their own inefficiency and laziness and introducing reservations is to miss the wood for the trees. Indian Stalwarts like Krishmanurthy, Osho, Shri Aurobindo and Swami Vivekanand have stated that the real purpose of education is to direct the student after looking at his inner potential. (See link - Make your passion your profession) The politicians of today are too lazy to do all that and that is why they have come out with such artificial gimmicks like reservation. It is a shame that such a thing could even be contemplated when both the head of government and the head of the state are individuals with impeccable meritorious credentials.

Anonymous said...

It is surprising that those who are getting benifited by the sinister policies of our govt. are further getting united tho extract maximum from these power hungry politicians , but those who are likely suffer just sleeping and waiting fo God to come and help them. Remember pals God too help those who help them selves.

Anonymous said...

WAKE UP DEFEAT CONGRESS, WHO HAS PEOPLE LIKE ARJUN SINGH WITH IT. LET IT BE THE PARTY OF 49.5%


WAKE UP DEFEAT CONGRESS, WHO HAS PEOPLE LIKE ARJUN SINGH WITH IT. LET IT BE THE PARTY OF 49.5%


WAKE UP DEFEAT CONGRESS, WHO HAS PEOPLE LIKE ARJUN SINGH WITH IT. LET IT BE THE PERTY OF 49.5%

Anonymous said...

Congress ever since it emerged as the most influential political party in India has done certain things that no other community has ever done or never heard in this world.
1. They divided India into Bangladesh and Pakisthan
2. They took over Kashmir and North East to save guard Delhi and when they realised what they have done they introduced the term "Scheduled Tribe"
3.Congress could not get along with the principles of Netaji Subhas and Sardar Patel because these leaders always insisted on a "SINGLE" undivided nation.
4.Congress introduced the term SC and OBC.
5.The party president is a foreigner and has dedicated dogs at her service like Pranav Mukerjee and Manmohan Singh
7. The best part : We voted them to power. So why crib?
Students/Youth : If you all guys do not burn out this country is going to die...SAVE it
... I am one such "general" category person who struggled just too hard and left India for good.Now I am in US for last 6 years and realise that if I had spent the same energy here as a student I would have had a billion dollar business by now. SO GUYS either save this country or try seeking foreign universities...ALL THE BEST...WE are there with u!

Anonymous said...

Friends, lets not get so cynical abt it. One way this is a blessing in disguise. Now many of the private engineering colleges will have an opportunity to upgrade themselves to high standard. Also MNCs and Software companies would also go for these colleges for campus recuitment since they know that many bright students are being denied merit seats .Students who after rigorous preparation for IITs/IIMs fail to get admitted can apply to UK/US and Australian universities....Lets make ourselves so strong that IIT/IIM and 100% reservation too should not supress us. IF you are good , u can be good in anything...Keep the spirits high..."Arise , Awake and stop not till your goal is achieved"

Anonymous said...

1. This a good lesson to all those Upper Caste who do not vote.They really deserve it.
2. Mere protests won't work - all those involved in this vote bank politics should be burnt alive in public.Does anyone from Upper caste has dare?
3. Let me ask Mr. Prime Minister - will there be reservation on basic needs like water, electricity, food, air also? And also in sports and army.I guess time is not far away when this happens.
4. To be born in India and that too when people like VP singh or congress rules is a curse.
5. Our next generation has to face civil war and many divisions of the country - that's for sure. Courtsey to Mahatma Gandhi who made Nehru as PM instead of Patel and Mr. Nehru and his family ruined the country.
6. Just wondering what are our armed forces and Mr. President doing.If they have any patriotism and responsibility, they MUST arise and clean the system.
7. Indians don't deserve democracy - only dictatorship by an able leader can do good for India.

Anonymous said...

it is no wonder that all are posted anonymous posting..so i also post a anonymous posting.

NOBODY CAN STOP THIS RESERVATION.THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

this arjun singh is a bl**dy b*stard and is fu*king our future. kill the b*stard and may his all future generations birth out handicapped. to hell with a person who shud take sanyas not only from politics but also from his life. KILL THAT B*STARD ARJUN SINGH . i have a plan . just need a gun. anyone interested? reply on :

saynotoreservation@rediffmail.com

Anonymous said...

Churhat Chor Arjun Singh, with one foot in a grave, is trying to re-surrect his political fortune with this retrograde step.

Anonymous said...

Rob Peter to pay Paul...that is what this reservation is about. God save this nation from the political "do-gooders".

Tobycat said...

Maybe Manmohan Singh and Arjun Singh can coordinate with US and UK universities to set up their campuses in India for the forsaken upper castes! Is any entrepreneur listening? Time to cash on. The Indian middle class will make it a profitable venture. What about bankers? Educational loans can generate big business.

Anonymous said...

This is not good at all. Congress is dividing the society for itself. Nehru broke the hindu religion to gain votes and his daughter indira robbed general category of their lands. Now soniya will come and bite our dicks off and fuck our ass. Democracy cannot work. They (netas)dont have any hearts. When Rajeev Goswami burnt nothing happened to V.P. Singh. When millions of general category take up arms then only will something happen to Manmohan Singh, Sonia and all their chinaals. India needs a revolution to cleanse this paap. A red Ganga will flow throughout india cleansing all this anyay. India can only truly survive and prosper under a dictatorship. We should go to the streets and protest and if need be take up arms.
Aur agar koi yeh nahi karta to main khud Sonia, Manmohan aur Arjun ko maar dalongaaa. Yeh ek brahmin ki jabaan hai. Aise hi blogsites se ladkonko apna dharma aur karma dikhate rahna. Jai parshuram!

Anonymous said...

The more we talk about "Brahmin's pride and promise" the more the divide is going to grow.We are paying the price for having introduced the caste system.Political bastards like Arjun Singh, Ram Vilas Fuckin Paswan and all these morons will take advantage because of this.Its extremely easy to divide Inidia. Speak Hindi in Chennai,Bengali in Delhi,Bihari in Mumbai and English in Kolkata you would know the divide. We love to hate each other, and value money more. We love to be racist, no where in the world do we have matrimonial columns on the lines "Wanted a **fair,beautiful, ....bride for..."..This country has a scary future. Imagine this: IIT/IIMs are better known these days for the plump campus offers but not for doing mind boggling research,making new history in invention and world class leadership...in short
Fuck Arjun Singh
Fuck the media for over hyping IIT/IIM
Fuck all those Indians who want to identify themselves as Brahmins,OBC,ST,SC and any other kind of mother fucking sub group
Fuck this democracy

LONG LIVE Hard Work,Faith,Peace and Progress!!

Anonymous said...

u so called meritorious fuckin chicks have no guts to stop this reservation. u all are selfish pigs have been eating the 60% OBC's 3000 crores every year. u motherf***** getting skills from IIT/IIM to kick out our mother and flew away to Mlechcha's land. U would be NRI bastards grabing reservation for voting and citizenship and not investing more than 10000 crores per year are real b.......

suvarup said...

as i was rambling thru the forty-five odd comments on this blog, a strange feeling crept in me. is it not that the SC/ST/OBC populations make up more than 70% of India's staggering 1030 million? then how come there is not a single post that defends the 'new' reservation move? is it because except for the vote-bank politicians, every-one, including the ones for whom the reservation is meant for, feel that reservation is bad, it's bad for India's growth, economy, everything? or is it because blogging is a thing that doesn't really fit into the daily-life of these people?

it's merit versus quota, isn't it dude? but who will define merit? even before you come to that debate, you implicitly assume that the person from SC/ST/OBC is inefficient, unworthy, good for nothing fellow. is merit measured thru academic records solely? then none other than the top 10 of each class in a school should be in leading role in different sectors. then merit must be measured thru enterprise. do you really have evidence that these people are less toiling, or less enterprising. i would really be indebted to any of you furnishing me any scientific study regarding that.no, no..you are getting all wrong. it's the merit list of the entrance exams that we are talking about. well, everyone knows that what success in today's entrance exams need is not really 'merit', but a combination of intelligence, proper guidance and practice, with the last two components dominating. when these people are provided quota entrance to institutes of higher education it's the compensation for the latter two that they are being given. and that too perhaps to right the millenia old historical wrongs perpetrated by uppercastes in our country. Or are you saying that it's the intelligence component that they are missing. wait, doesn't that sound like you have decided already, that they constitute a useless worthless mountain sitting of top of India's progress?

Ask a question to yourself. whose progress is at stake? >70%'s or <30%'s? if india shines, its for whom does it shine?
even if hypothetically i agree that the standards of India's last bastions of 'merit' will dwindle, then i question what good has it done to india's seventy five odd crores? you threaten that brain drain will increase...an increase from 90% to 95% won't at all make a difference.

teach them, coach them, make them eligible to face the competition, that should be the buzzword, right? unfortunately, these egalitarian views present themselves only when the reservation isue comes alive; none seems to be interested in these otherwise. thus the honesty in intentions of letting these people into the safely-guarded 'temples' of learning always remains dubious. and in a country like india where corruption is eating up the system from all possible sides, how do expect that it is really possible do all these for the people who have been alienated from the stream of learning for thousands of years?

but the times they are a changin'....the political power in the country slowly seems to be shifting away from the brahmins and the forward castes. that's why you will find that none of the mass based political parties will be against the new legislation, forget about the mandal type agitation. the corporate world,forward castes directly affected by these policies will no doubt resent ( and quite naturally!!) and the corporatized news media will go at lengths to fuel their anger and disgust.

the battle lines are drawn. the war is truely due.

Anonymous said...

Well, this reservation business is going too far. Reserving 50% of the seats is not fair. The problem in this country is too few for too large number of people. And those who can take whatever is available, dont give a damn to those who can not because of the rotten system (applies to both, so called, general and non-general category)

Anonymous said...

The future is at stake....

I was reading thru the posts.Lot of hate comments.This is not good.There are few things.

No one internally hates the OBC/SC/ST. But when u see that a son/daughter of an IAS officer, after having lived a lavish life applies thru quota,securing as low at 40% in the entrance tests and then getting the goodies..Its then when u start hating the system.

You score a 95% in uor acads, slog out like a dog and do not get a seat owing to your "upper" caste tag and that may be uor father is a poor clerk...U start hating this

When some of u demand that reservation is uor birth right,it is for sure none of you are talking abt the farmers or poor people here.You just need a stamped certifiate that qualifies u as a "creamy" person....

Whats next?
1. People of this country will not revolt so many general class people will try to take OBC/S/ST certificates
2.90% of govt jobs will be filled by sc/st/obcs.General will try to fill the private sector
3.Govt will impose reservation in pvt sector also.
4.Cornered by all these General class people will try to seek US/UK/Australia for a career and probably a foreign citizenship.
5. IITs IIMs NITs all these institutes will have around 60% of the faculty from the reserved category. The general class faculty will try to move to foreign universities.
6. MNCs value ONLY MERIT so automatically one by one pvt companies will close down (like the jute mills and many other factories of Bengal)
7. The country would slowly go into chaos b'coz "spoon feeding" has its limits.
8. India would probably breakdown as a country divided into two halves(just like in 1947 Hindu Vs Muslim)

Resources are scarce, population is extremely high, climate is harsh and above all politicians are mother fuckers...Such a country is destined to die...The count down begins............

Anonymous said...

Hey Suvarup Saha,
Many of the points u had raised were good.Now "Saha" I assume are OBCs from Bengal.We all know how industry friendly is this region of our country.To think again just 70 years back Bengal was a pioneer in many industrial breakthrus. Assuming that 70% of Indians are lower castes then 90% of Bengalees should be the OBC/SC/ST category.70 years back there were no reservations yet Bengal prospered, and today with 90% belonging to so called lower caste and wit so much of resrvation, Bengal sucks big time.Systematically many indigenious industries have been closed down.Almost everywhere in the world you would get a Bengalee looking for a job b'coz calcutta has no avenues....

So Mr. Saha, all your satistical analysis out here in the blog is bullshit.The reality is that anyone who avails reservation not on the grounds of being v poor but on other "certifcate" grounds are parasites. They are the bastrads of this society. These are the bastards who are gaining from the Govt Policies and not the 70% whom u r talking abt.

If u have guts Mr Saha and U reside in India, PLEASE for GOD's sake do NOT apply quota for uor childern. I am sure that u earn well and no where belong to "70%"...And if u r an OBC(which I am sure u r) please open a coaching centre in an OBC Village...

Vimal S. Srikantha

Anonymous said...

wake up young Bharatiyan's and take over the nation.the time has arrived. each of you need to emulate our great freedom fighters.abolish religion/caste based reservation and create
"ONE BHARAT ONE FAMILY"

suvarup said...

reply to mr. shrikant

on a personal note i would like tell you that though there are 'Saha's who are SCs or OBCs, i am not one of them, neither do i avail any quota facility. neither my parents did. then you must be communist, u will chip in, i know. and the branding will be given much more importance to reason and logic. your scathing attack on bengal and bengalees is statistically faulty, regionally biased and extremely disheartening.

the debate about quota transcends the question of how much and boils down to why. and that's the point i wanted to make.

Anonymous said...

society, economics, culture and politics: the reservation in our psyche

Anonymous said...

I support the agitation raised by doctors ...the country is finally set to revolt.Lets fight it out.Down with Arjun singh the bastard.Down with all the people who support him

Anonymous said...

all u kids wake up, it is time to fight again. why u need to fight 'coz OBC,SC-ST's are capturing ur birth-right, what birth-right being the SERVANT of small or big COs. or MNC's. hey brilliant mules, common present any sort of evidence of ur intellect since SHANKARACHARYA's period, even u r not capable to design bicycle ,Indus valley civilisation offered bullock cart is still the best design.
What is ur contribution in nation building.
We have 25 Cabinet secratary since independance 19 of them are Brahmin and 5 are Vaishyas, what a administration these b******* have given us.
Have u ever introspected urself, not, well! do it. u will find urself as parasites.

Anonymous said...

I am commenting on the post that starts with "all u kids wake up, it is time to fight again. why u need to fight 'coz OBC,SC-ST's are cap"...this is a typical example of an OBC/SC/ST mentality.We call it spoon feeding.Now they want it little more...they want even the digestion to be done by someone else.I mean its a gr8 feeling, when you have everything at free of cost without much effort.Just take a look at the STs from North Eastern states.Most of them own posh cars, have lavish lifestyle and a great bank balance...all because of the COOL reservation policy India has bestowed on them.Yet they hate being called Indians, they are prone to racisim and promote insurgency.Why the FUCK should we waste our resources like this?
...... Hey u all of mother fuckers,if you have the ability to stand on your own feet then shun reservation as a whole...and even if reservation has to stay then support it for economically deprived people. If we go on like this a day will come when India will perish automatically.It makes no sense if some people score 99% to get a seat and another 40%, with the latter dominating.IIT/IIM will fail to produce world class professional and lets face it NO where in the world "reservations on certificate grounds other than merit" is acknowledged....

....So keep it up u all OBC/SC/ST bandawagon u would make India shine one day. Fuck U!

Anonymous said...

My dear enemy,

matagamani(motherfucker) word is synonymous to u. well, go thru this.
Indrani wife of Indra was sexually exploited by Vrishakapi asked indra to brake his relation with Vrishakapi, Indra refused it.

didn't get it.

take this,

Rishi Udhalak was asked by his son Shwetketu: how could anyone grab his mothers hand for sex. Udhalak told him, Varna system offered them this right.

proof....
Oh! well, i'll try.
former one from The great epiq Mahabharata
Latter one from Rigveda Rucha No.10.86.2-6 to 10.86.10.

They are your forefather, remember them.

I've a story for u.
in 1859 Madras University established, it had 99%presence from your castebhai. Passing limit was 45% marks.
Have u ever thought, how many have crossed that limit.
None. Really, go check records. How many years they have taken to cross passing limit 45%.
No idea.
Cause, your castebhai stretched that passing limit to 35%

How pity!